Re: <nettime> Summary of today's meeting

[Joseph Rabie via Nettime-tmp <nettime-tmp@mail.ljudmila.org>]

It would appear that debating and boxing are both considered "gentlemanly" sports. Nelson Mandela practised both. I remember him saying (but I don't remember his actual words), that confronting one's position with that of others is an opportunity to persuade others, as well as be persuaded oneself.

Best wishes -

Joe.

Le 17 juil. 2023 à 10:35, d.garcia@new-tactical-research.co.uk a écrit :

This kind of meta discussion is a bit risky for our shared mental health as it can suggest we have nothing ourselves to talk about.

But just sometimes at key moments (like now) it is necessary. And its part of an urgent wider discussion about how to manage disagreement that does not suppress essential grit and friction. And is able to cope with the recognition that disagreement is always, by definition, 'disagreeable' whilst still mitigates the chances of implosion or forking. That encourages people to "stay in the room" and keep the conversation moving. This I guess is maybe what skilled moderation (and politics) manages and has important implications that go way beyond nettime.

In this regard I have found Teresa Bejan's book "mere civility" a very useful contribution to this discussion. It recognises how important and difficult these issues are to tackle whilst drawing on histories that go back to the killing fields of the reformation and the religious wars. And offers possible modes of communication that give a direction of travel that avoid sliding into comforting liberal nostrums.

https://www.hup.harvard.edu/catalog.php?isbn=9780674545496

David Garcia

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