Re: <nettime> Nettime veteran patiently reading the nettime administrivia

[Andrew Libby via Nettime-tmp <nettime-tmp@mail.ljudmila.org>]

I also want to stay on the list. Mods, please don't take me off.

Andrew


> I'm a lurker on the list, perhaps inclined to be more active as global
> cultural politics grows more heated and weird. I'm making sure here to
> register my activity so that I won't be excluded.  I currently have
> presence on Twitter, Bluesky, Mastodon, Micro.blog and a few other less
> likely candidates, visiting all and looking for the right neighborhood to
> settle into.  But there's always email...
>
> On Fri, Jul 14, 2023 at 3:44â?¯AM Bruce Sterling via Nettime-tmp <
> nettime-tmp@mail.ljudmila.org> wrote:
>
>> It's rare for me to harangue the nettimers, but I'm very pro-nettime, so
>> I'm going to seize this opportunity to send mail to "ljudmila.org," if
>> only to show that I don't want to be pruned from the list.
>>
>> I'm up in the Balkan mountains this season, where I discovered that a
>> shortwave radio that must be 40 years old still functions.  This
>> discovery
>> gave me a lot of the same moral comfort that I derive from nettime.
>> Short-wave radio, it's not for everybody, but some people have 'em.
>>
>> After all, what else is there: Twitter?  Sort of.  Maybe.  For a while.
>>
>> "All my followers are accumulated social capital that seem to have been
>> rendered near worthless by algorithmic deflation," the author laments:
>>
>> https://www.eugenewei.com/blog/2023/7/6/how-to-blow-up-a-timeline
>>
>> Bruce Sterling
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 11 Jul 2023, at 5:29 PM, John Preston via Nettime-tmp <
>> nettime-tmp@mail.ljudmila.org> wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Here is a longform summary of the synchronous meeting held today.
>>
>> There is general agreement to move to servus.at as the new host for the
>> mailing list. They have about 2000 email accounts and a few hundred
>> mailing
>> lists so there are no concerns about management or scale.
>>
>> We talked about problems with bots, and they are currently working on a
>> solution.
>>
>> After the move, the intention for signup process seems to be to keep it
>> the
>> same as it is now: users have to confirm their email via a link, and
>> then
>> be
>> manually approved by a moderator. We think this is currently scalable,
>> effective
>> for managing spam, and gives mod team a feel for "who's coming and
>> going",
>> which
>> is nice to know.
>>
>> We expect the move to take a couple of weeks, and there was some
>> discussion
>> about when is a good time to do this, given it's summer now. Eventually
>> the
>> archive and website will move as well, but probably that will happen
>> after
>> the
>> new list is established.
>>
>> An initial pool of new moderators is now being formed and I think people
>> will
>> meet again soon to organise this. I think Jordan, Christian, and Menno
>> expressed
>> interest in joining the new mod squad.
>>
>> We also talked about pruning the subscriber list and figuring out how
>> best
>> to
>> coordinate the move. This is an open question for the mod team to figure
>> out
>> what to do, but there were suggestions of using the invitation function
>> on
>> the
>> new list to send out invites to everyone with activity in the last year,
>> as a
>> way to make sure the most active members are able to migrate
>> effectively,
>> and
>> find a balance with just resubscribing lots of people who maybe don't
>> want
>> to
>> be on the list.
>>
>> There was brief discussion about using the nettime.org domain name for
>> the
>> mailing list, and this is still an open question. Ted would like to
>> maintain
>> ownership for now and act as a guarantor, since it also points to other
>> services
>> like our website and the Mastodon instance [1]. Overall there did not
>> seem
>> to
>> be much concern either way in terms of the mailing list, as we expect
>> host
>> moves to be few and far between.
>>
>> We also talked about the role of moderation on the list, and making sure
>> this is
>> also about creating energy in the list, and bringing new people into the
>> space.
>> Ted pointed out that diversity is an issue for nettime, as the
>> homogeneity
>> has
>> both allowed the list to last for a long time, but also caused it to
>> "ossify".
>>
>> Vesna had some good suggestions for organising small meetups and remote
>> hubs,
>> and we talked about arranging meetings at in person events like Ars
>> Electronica
>> and Transmediale. Also we said these should be publicised so we are
>> making
>> nettime an open space that new people can get involved in, regardless of
>> if they
>> like mailing lists or want to be part of the list.
>>
>> I also raised the idea of doing more events on-list and off-list, such
>> as
>> a
>> 'show and tell' thread where people can just talk about what they're
>> working on
>> at the moment, or having coffee calls where people can have a chat and
>> get
>> to
>> know other people in the community. Someone also mentioned the idea of
>> inviting
>> people not on the list to write guest posts, which I like because it
>> grows
>> the
>> community and allows us to explore the use of a mailing list as a
>> publication
>> platform as well as just a space for connecting and discussing.
>>
>> Probably there is a bunch of stuff I missed because I got distracted
>> halfway
>> through, and then had to leave early, but I hope this is a useful
>> summary
>> for
>> the list! â?¤
>>
>> [1] I actually missed that we have a Mastodon instance! It's at
>> <https://tldr.nettime.org/> if anyone is interested ð???
>>
>> Thanks,
>> John (they/them)
>>
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